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Old Nov 08, 2005, 12:50 AM // 00:50   #181
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how many pets can you get?
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 12:51 AM // 00:51   #182
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Depends what pets you mean. If you mean hunter pets (The Frostsabre I want) then you can have 3. If you mean small pets (Like the White Kitten etc) then you can have as many as your bags, banks and mules will hold. But only one out at any time.
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 12:58 AM // 00:58   #183
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ok so you are like a kenal
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 01:11 AM // 01:11   #184
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Screenshot of my char atm with my current Moonstalker Matriarch pet and the Black Tabby rare drop I got to match her

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WoW isn't for everyone. I mean, how many skills do you have in GW's? 8 isn't it? Lol. Doesn't compare really tbh...
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 01:58 AM // 01:58   #185
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Which class can turn into animals and what animals can they turn into
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 02:05 AM // 02:05   #186
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Er, if these aren't right.. screw you, no-one else has answered

Druid:

Lvl 10 - Bear
Lvl 18 (or something) - Killer seal
Lvl 20 - Cat
Lvl 30 - Cheetah


Shaman:

Lvl something - Ghost wolf (Dances on it's hind legs. adorable)


Thaaat's.. about it actually I think. Mainly the druid (no shit). I think they can turn into giant owlbears as well now. For what purpose you ask? Well, they got da MOOOOVES!
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 03:11 AM // 03:11   #187
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if you can't see that some of us don't like WoW simply because it looks horrible
All I see is a restatement of a formal rebuttal of a non-supported blanket statement. This is hilarious
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 03:17 AM // 03:17   #188
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Well, the screenshots don't give it any justice, but once you start playing it, it's actually quite fun to play. Also, the skills are weak without such things as talents and Skill Trainers.

SOT, and any whom are interested, my Alliance character is on the Vashj PvP server, but I usually cancel the PvP battles, as I'm so newb to the game (I must admit it! o.o)
I am on an rp server, which inexplicably was swapped to a 'normal' server setting sometime last month.

I play on the non-pvp focus server, because I am an old hand from Lineage II, and nothing is more god damn annoying than to be ganked everytime you leave town because you are unable to type in French. For gods sake, I am serious!

What I do is max out my character, then migrate it to a pvp, then I dont have to worry about being level 5, hunting a raptor for a quest, and some idiot that is level 60 coming along and turning me into paste for the sheer joy of disrupting my level grind. I find that to be tremendously irritating, and irritating is something that is hard for most people to do me.

So yeah, I become a demigod, then I migrate over and have some fun
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I am on an rp server, which inexplicably was swapped to a 'normal' server setting sometime last month.

I play on the non-pvp focus server, because I am an old hand from Lineage II, and nothing is more god damn annoying than to be ganked everytime you leave town because you are unable to type in French. For gods sake, I am serious!

What I do is max out my character, then migrate it to a pvp, then I dont have to worry about being level 5, hunting a raptor for a quest, and some idiot that is level 60 coming along and turning me into paste for the sheer joy of disrupting my level grind. I find that to be tremendously irritating, and irritating is something that is hard for most people to do me.

So yeah, I become a demigod, then I migrate over and have some fun
yeah thats what i'd be doin. u got multiple lvl 60 accounts?
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yeah thats what i'd be doin. u got multiple lvl 60 accounts?
I have 4.
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wow total pro make one on archimonde lol.
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 03:39 AM // 03:39   #192
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I have 4.
O_o that's a lot of time...
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O_o that's a lot of time...
Actually it's not. I only play about 4 hours every 2 days or so, quite a bit more on weekends. Lately, I have had nothing but time though. I simply avoid all the cosmetical touches and blaze through quests. Faster that way.
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Actually it's not. I only play about 4 hours every 2 days or so, quite a bit more on weekends. Lately, I have had nothing but time though. I simply avoid all the cosmetical touches and blaze through quests. Faster that way.
mind telling how long it took to make a 60? (maybe not ur first seeing how it may have taken the longest) because my bro is at around 45, playing 6-7 hours each night after school strictly leveling
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mind telling how long it took to make a 60? (maybe not ur first seeing how it may have taken the longest) because my bro is at around 45, playing 6-7 hours each night after school strictly leveling
In total honesty, I have no idea. I make a character, and if I get bored with them, I start a new one, same race, and diff class, then do every single quest in an area, before moving on, and sell everything I get my hands on to vendortrash. If I get wool, i sell it for 1 gold per 20 lumps in the auction house.

I avoid all pvp, and all side-skinning crap, and merely do all quests. Then I worry about professions.

Right now, I am playing a Paladin, a dwarf, who is level 9, and I am obsessed with this character now, so the others are....asleep...
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In total honesty, I have no idea. I make a character, and if I get bored with them, I start a new one, same race, and diff class, then do every single quest in an area, before moving on, and sell everything I get my hands on to vendortrash. If I get wool, i sell it for 1 gold per 20 lumps in the auction house.

I avoid all pvp, and all side-skinning crap, and merely do all quests. Then I worry about professions.

Right now, I am playing a Paladin, a dwarf, who is level 9, and I am obsessed with this character now, so the others are....asleep...
yeah i have a 13 almost 14 human rogue. i have been doin leatherworking and skinning (skinning at 105ish and leatherworking at 60). ppl pay a lot more than i expected for light leather, so i can make some money off that.
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Well, I have seen many good things about WoW, but to the folks saying that *insert part of WoW here* takes skill, or that having many slots takes skill. . .

How so?

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WoW isn't for everyone. I mean, how many skills do you have in GW's? 8 isn't it? Lol. Doesn't compare really
tbh..
So it takes a lot of skill to go into any area, any zone, and never have to consider what skills you take, or what your attributes are? Seems less like skill and more like a love of large numbers to me.

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It all comes down to skill, yup that's right, where GW only says skill is the key on the box WOW makes true, it may be because i'm a very experienced RPG player that there's not a lot of skill to gain for me in GW, but in WOW it is truely your skill that decides
Where is the skill? When do you have to consider your next move? Correct me if I am wrong, but it all comes down to either you are a high enough level to kill the monster or not, either you have the equipment to kill the mob, or you don't.

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Pvp is extremely higher in skill basis, as far as I am concerned, than guild wars, for this simple reason: When someone is using soul barbs in arena of GW, you know what the hell they are up to, if you know how it works. In wow, you cannot really tell what the other person is doing, often until it is too late. The levle 60 rogue, for example, is terrifying to all players, because they can cut your throat from behind, if you dont watch your ass, and its fast kills with a rogue. On the flipside of the rogue, a warrior can take an ungodly amount of damage from a mage, which deal high damage, but have the shittiest armor out there, so you can kinda see how the emotes of a character casting or launching something might be misread, making it really more thought-based that click an icon.
Sounds more like random luck to me. If I do not know what my opponent is going to do, then anything I do is based not on skill, but on random choices. Fighting a mage? Bring up fire defense (if WoW has such things) and pray he is not based in ice/lightning/etc. In guild wars, you can see what your opponent is doing, and their for prepare effective counters, adapt to changes quickly, and actualy understand combat rather than just hope for the best.

It sounds to me like most of the people talking about guild wars's lack of skill are the folks who avoid any sort of formal PvP. I would much rather have a group of 8 against another group of 8, then a group of 40 against some boss. With 8, your group either plans things out, decides on a build, and thinks things through, or you get your (pardon my language) ass handed to you. With a group of 40, could you not just grab anyone you could get your hands on and have at the boss, killing him easily?

WoW appears to be about numbers. Large numbers. 60 skills on your bar? That takes skill to make a strong build with? Do you even need a strong build? 40 people in a group? Who needs organization when you know it will just degenerate into a bloody melee quickly.

I have considered purchasing WoW before, and I may again. For now, guild wars gives me more than I need, and I hope the prospective buyers of WoW fully consider what it is, what a game based on level and equipment can have to do with skill, before they make a decision.
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Honestly, it is unfair to say either game requires "no skill." These games cannot and should not be compared in such a manner (since they are geared in totally different ways); so don't. Each takes a different type of skill to be effective.
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Honestly, it is unfair to say either game requires "no skill." These games cannot and should not be compared in such a manner (since they are geared in totally different ways); so don't. Each takes a different type of skill to be effective.
Yes and no.
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WoW isn't for everyone. I mean, how many skills do you have in GW's? 8 isn't it? Lol. Doesn't compare really tbh...
actualy 450 skills
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